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File:022 Brown-throated wattle-eye at Kibale forest National Park Photo by Giles Laurent.jpg, featured[edit]

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Brown-throated wattle-eye at Kibale forest National Park
  •  Support The larger crop nicely shows the context and hints at the habitat. – Aristeas (talk) 16:28, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --The Cosmonaut (talk) 17:24, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Support --Famberhorst (talk) 04:25, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •  Oppose Only 2,797 × 1,865 pixels and the bird in this image is very small. The background is too dominant in my opinion. Useful document, but not all the useful images on Commons should be featured. For a FP of a bird, you need at least to be able to see some fine details of the animals at full resolution, not only the branches where it lives. Sorry -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:59, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for your review. In my opinion it can not be expected the same level of detail for a small and shy bird where there is only a few seconds window to take a picture of it without possibility to go closer to it compared to pictures of still objects. Also, we have FP pictures of birds that have the same if not less definition than this one : 1, 2. I actually think this picture has enough level of detail compared to the bird size in real life and to the possibility to get close to it. -- Giles Laurent (talk) 13:57, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • When comparing the size in pixels of the two images you give, the first one is 3 times larger, and the second one 2 times. So both may actually have more definition. Moreover, almost all the birds in the FP galleries are much larger than this one. The possibility to get closer is also very subjective. The more time you spend to capture a specific animal, the more opportunities you get. But this same day you also captured photos of Chimpanzees. Useful photo for Wikipedia, but when zooming in, it's not a FP in my opinion -- Basile Morin (talk) 02:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Small passerines like this one are among the most difficult subjects for bird photographers. They're skittish and notoriously hard to photograph. A big thank you to Giles for taking this excellent image and sharing it under a free license! --Frank Schulenburg (talk) 05:18, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's a matter of resources. Harrison's lens costs about ten times more than Giles's. I think it's a bit unfair to other bird photographers that such expensive equipment should set the "standard" for FPs. We can only be grateful that people with very high-end cameras and lenses donate some photos to Commons, but I don't think they should set the bar for all the FPs in their special fields. Sometimes FPC can be a tad too elitist. --Cart (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • JJ Harrison sets the bar for birds like Kabelleger sets it for trains, or Iifar for focus stacked plants / fruits / insects. Equipment matters but also experience, explored places / subjects, patience, skill, chosen composition, etc. -- Basile Morin (talk) 04:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    FP rules state that "A bad picture of a very difficult subject is better than a good picture of an ordinary subject. A good picture of a difficult subject is an extraordinary photograph". Some birds are very hard to approach and small birds are especially always moving. I think that this picture is a good picture of a difficult subject as it has enough definition compared to the possibility to go close to the bird. Also, I don't think that JJ Harrison 30'000+ USD main camera gear (EOS R3 + EOS-1D X Mark III + 600 f4 + 400 f2.8) is the bar for small bird FP (difficult subject) when phone camera is the bar for still subject photography (easy subject)... Giles Laurent (talk) 14:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Confirmed results:
Result: 14 support, 1 oppose, 0 neutral → featured. /-- Radomianin (talk) 13:34, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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