Commons talk:Commonist/Archive 3

Wikia

Is it possible to edit choose which place to upload on wikia? Its currently stuck to 1 Wikia (in German). Artix Kreiger (talk) 18:54, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

@Artix Kreiger: It should be. Please see Commons:Commonist#Commonist_on_Other_Wikis.   — Jeff G. ツ 20:01, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: , weird. I can't find what is specified. Artix Kreiger (talk) 04:38, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

login failed NeedToken

Hi, there is a problem with login: UploadFilesTask.scala:96 login failed NeedToken

commonist-1.8.0, Java 8.151, MediaWiki 1.27.4, PHP 5.5.9-1ubuntu4.22, PostgreSQL 9.4.15 What can this be? Thanks a lot! --Tom Jac (talk) 09:49, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

resolved: problem with SqlBagOStuff.php (PostgreSQL): Requests from Commonist were blocked. "PHP Notice: Uncommitted DB writes (transaction from DatabaseBase::query (LCStoreDB::get))" Mediawiki has resolved the issue with version 1.29. --Tom Jac (talk) 15:42, 9 January 2018 (UTC)

Communist icon

I am not sure if this is a good icon to use. Public display of the hammer and sickle is illegal in some countries (as are other symbols of oppressive governments, such as the double sig rune: wikipedia:Strafgesetzbuch section 86a). Nicole Sharp (talk) 22:15, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@Nicole Sharp: i agree with you. also windows install instruction for program are outdated and need update. regards--مصعب (talk) 19:45, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

The icon and name are a clear pun and there's no reason to change them. But yes, Commonist nowadays could be considered superseded by other upload tools like Vicuna. --Nemo 07:43, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

@Incnis Mrsi: Hi. Can you please update windows install instruction because it is outdated. Regards--مصعب (talk) 12:39, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

Commonist program icon showing hammer and sickle

A red hammer and sickle, form matching that on the Soviet Union's flag from 1955–1991

@Nemo bis: While the name Commonist is a combination of words Commons and Communism, there's no pun with use of hammer and sickle as the logo for Commonist. @Nicole Sharp: is right that this symbol is illegal in many jurisdictions and I would add that it triggers lots of negative connotations. The hammer and sickle was the main symbol for communism in its several practical implementations which were totalitarian political systems with millions of victims. Use of this symbol should not never happen on any Wikimedia project. I  Support the change of the logo for the Commonist app. --Rezonansowy (talk) 23:54, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

I made two variations of a new proposed icon for Commonist. Let's pick one of them and make the rebranding:

• 
  File:Commonist Star icon.svg
• 
  File:Commonist Star icon 2.svg
• 
  File:Commonist Star icon 3.svg

--Rezonansowy (talk) 13:35, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

@Rezonansowy:  Support File:Commonist Star icon 2.svg, unless you can make File:Commonist Star icon.svg with a blue background outside the star.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 14:08, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: Done! File:Commonist Star icon 3.svg --Rezonansowy (talk) 08:08, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@Rezonansowy: Thanks!   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 14:49, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Can Commonist be used to upload a new version of a file?

I used Commonist to upload book illustrations, but presently I upload book illustrations by CropTool, that's a great app; nevertheless very often the uploaded image needs to be post-processed (gray conversion, levels manipulation to remove light gray background); therefore it would be great to use Commonist to upload new versions of post-processed images, with no change of file description test but a comment.

Can I use Commonist to do such a work? --Alex brollo bis (talk) 21:31, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

In French : good new

Thanks for the translation in French. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 07:51, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Exception?

This tells us to add an exception, but does not say what exception to add. - Jmabel ! talk 07:01, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@Jmabel: The most specific exception you could add is https://djini.de/commonist/ws/commonist.jnlp but you could also add just the site https://djini.de - see https://www.java.com/en/download/faq/exception_sitelist.xml for details.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 13:32, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@Jeff G.: Fine, but shouldn't that be in the instructions, rather than just "add an exception"? - Jmabel ! talk 23:12, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

@Jmabel: Yes, it probably should.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 07:13, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Security

Tried to install. Application was blocked by Java due to security issues Zyakov (talk) 14:51, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Tried to understand. Report was unactionable due to specificity issues   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 15:07, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Add a Licence

Is it possible to add {{PD-old-70-1923}} in the licence choice ? --Hildepont (talk) 12:15, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

admin with Two-factor authentication:

I am an admin with Two-factor authentication enabled on this wiki but can't log in to Commonist, is there a solution? Mardetanha ^talk 08:29, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Multiple categories undesirable?

"Categories: ....Try to avoid using more than two topic categories per image, they can be added later." Why is that?? Better as many categories as possible at upload, there might never come a "later", right? Cheers, Hansmuller (talk) 16:02, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Save user password and UTF-8 support

I would like so have my commons password saved in order to avoid searching it again and again after every start of the commonist.

A second feature (bug?) is concerning character problem. For instace if images have a description field in their metadata containing UTF-8 characters, commonist is displaying weird wrong ANSI characters in the image description field. (Observed after exporting images from Photoshop Lightroom) W.Strickling (talk) 13:11, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Editing help

Hello everybody,

I have a question about the editing on here and I was wondering if anybody here could help me with it. So, the thing is that I would like a 'user gallery' header on this page but every time the page gets updated, the new entry goes on top of the header. Does anybody know how to keep this header on the very top of the page at all times and have new entries to the gallery get placed to the bottom of the header?

NeoMeesje (talk) 12:27, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

There is no bin and etc files

Hello, there is a problem with the installing section in Linux OS. The actual version of commonist don't have « bin » and « etc » files, so we don’t need to extract them. And (and there is a big problem for noob in linux), the command to start commonist isn’t « bin/commonist » but « ./commonist ». I will change this section of page, anyone have something to add ? 2A01:E35:2F86:A20:496:2304:FEE1:E055 20:41, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

UTF8 support in metadata?

There is an issue with UTF8 character metadata, they are not accepted correctly in the descritption field. I already submitted an issue to the github page and I would be glad if this issue could be fixed. W.Strickling (talk) 08:40, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Comminist down?

My commonist is down sinde yesterday. Why? --Thirunavukkarasye-Raveendran (talk) 16:50, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Same problem. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 09:11, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

Same problem here the output of the debugging window Version 1.9.0 on a windows 10 x 64 System

INFO    [2018-12-16T15:15:59.949Z]      UploadFilesTask.scala:84        logging in
DEBUG   [2018-12-16T15:15:59.959Z]      Connection.scala:120    POST https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php HTTP/1.1
Dez 16, 2018 4:16:00 PM org.apache.http.client.protocol.ResponseProcessCookies processCookies
WARNUNG: Invalid cookie header: "Set-Cookie: WMF-Last-Access=16-Dec-2018;Path=/;HttpOnly;secure;Expires=Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:00:00 GMT". Invalid 'expires' attribute: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:00:00 GMT
DEBUG   [2018-12-16T15:16:00.383Z]      Connection.scala:123    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
DEBUG   [2018-12-16T15:16:00.398Z]      Connection.scala:120    POST https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php HTTP/1.1
Dez 16, 2018 4:16:01 PM org.apache.http.client.protocol.ResponseProcessCookies processCookies
WARNUNG: Invalid cookie header: "Set-Cookie: WMF-Last-Access=16-Dec-2018;Path=/;HttpOnly;secure;Expires=Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:00:00 GMT". Invalid 'expires' attribute: Thu, 17 Jan 2019 12:00:00 GMT
DEBUG   [2018-12-16T15:16:01.912Z]      Connection.scala:123    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
INFO    [2018-12-16T15:16:01.928Z]      UploadFilesTask.scala:95        login failed    Aborted

--Jörgens.Mi ^Talk 15:22, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Using the new version 1.10 same problem --Jörgens.Mi ^Talk 21:11, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

can not change gallery error

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Error_commonist-can_not_change_gallery.jpg

Hi!

I woould appreciate if somebody could see what is the problem here and tell me!

Regards!

--Quahadi Añtó 10:06, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

In German: Commons:Forum#Problem_beim_Hochladen_mit_Commonist. Gruss --Nightflyer (talk) 15:25, 20 November 2021 (UTC)

Now archived (of course without any solution): Commons:Forum/Archiv/2021/October#Problem_beim_Hochladen_mit_Commonist. --Anvilaquarius (talk) 08:26, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

missingparam: The token parameter must be set

could not update gallery (missingparam in User:..._)

ERROR	[2021-10-08T21:00:18.209Z]	API.scala:341	{"code":"missingparam","info":"The \"token\" parameter must be set.","*":"See somewhere something..."}

--Watchduck (quack) 21:06, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

MediaWiki 1.37/Deprecation of legacy API token parameters / ApiFeatureUsage / Bug report. --Rodomonte (talk) 21:11, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

And ??? So ??? How can we resolve this problem ??? Could you explain us ???? Thx. --ComputerHotline (talk) 05:52, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

It means, the developer is aware of the problem and we only need to wait for a new version. --Rodomonte (talk) 07:43, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Same problem since yesterday. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 12:54, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

@Watchduck, Rodomonte, ComputerHotline, and Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick: Evidently from issues 25 and 26, developer ritschwumm AKA User:ritschwumm is aware of the problem but has no solution yet.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 13:15, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

Would it help to just not update the gallery page (for now)? Probably no one would miss that anyway. --Watchduck (quack) 13:19, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

No, unfortunately not. --Rodomonte (talk) 13:52, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

 Question The problem still persists as of this day, and the same is true for VicuñaUpload which doesn't work. It's a shame, will the delays still be long? Best regards.--Pierre André ^(talk) 21:37, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes !!! VicuñaUpload dosen't works too. --ComputerHotline (talk) 19:27, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Please fix Commonist. Is therean alternative program? What about PyCommonist? Where from can I get PyCommonist? --Thirunavukkarasye-Raveendran (talk) 17:15, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

In german: Commons:Forum#Problem_beim_Hochladen_mit_Commonist Gruss --Nightflyer (talk) 17:29, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

+1 --Molgreen (talk) 17:21, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

In a nutshell- it says Both Vicuna and Commonist are written in Java, and require a java library to function. The Java library is broken. Vicuna and Commonist and any other tool written in Java will not work. Add to that the Upload Wizard is not pulling location from the exif data- and we have no effective way of uploading. ClemRutter (talk) 21:40, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

No, it is not a problem with a Java library, but a breaking change in the MediaWiki API. This change was announced several years ago, but the developers of these tools did not notice it. --Rodomonte (talk) 19:54, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

So we can expect an imminent fix ?! ClemRutter (talk) 15:33, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Apparently not. WMF is utterly uninterested in those users that keep its projects going. --Anvilaquarius (talk) 19:44, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

This is a recurring problem, specifically if the foundation has more and more resources, we, the contributors, always work with the means at hand. As if there are not the right people in the right places. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 15:19, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

I think so too. This appears to be a lack of interest from the part of the Foundation in helping his contributors to better upload a lot of photos to Commons. While that is the main purpose of Commons. They certainly have other goals. A month and a half since Commonist is down and no help. --Poudou99 (talk) 16:23, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

@Thirunavukkarasye-Raveendran, Nightflyer, Molgreen, ClemRutter, Anvilaquarius, Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick, and Poudou99: Please see my post of 13:15, 9 October 2021 (UTC) above.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 06:24, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

So... can I Manually add/set the "parameters needed", too fool the software info working? Are there any other tools for mass upload, that works as-of-today? --Janwikifoto (talk) 14:21, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

No, all tools programmed with java don't work. Gruss --Nightflyer (talk) 14:35, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Ok, so is it possible to mass-upload by (for example) Pywikibot? To mass by Upload wizard (without giving details for each file)? And after that change names, categories, descriptions, by VFC Visual File Changer? That would be an alternative. Anyone who has done mass upload with these, in the last few weeks? (so we know it works now) --Janwikifoto (talk) 18:34, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Any working mass upload, dec-2021 ?

Hello, while commonist/vicuna does not work, is it possible to mass-upload by

a) Pywikibot

b) To mass upload by Upload wizard

c) anything else known to work, right now? Does anybody know?

--Janwikifoto (talk) 14:02, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Proposal

FYI, I added a proposal to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2022/Multimedia_and_Commons --Anvilaquarius (talk) 08:11, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

thx, tis would be very helpful, that you wrote this, my english is too bad for this. ---- K@rl (talk) Mid Abstond hoidn xund bleibn 11:18, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

Name and logo

I must say that having logo of murderous regime plastered across many files which were transferred using this tool is irritating. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:27, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. If I ever find this tool useful I would ask for a fork for normal people insted of this one for shameless ghouls. TFerenczy (talk) 10:27, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

In case it ever works again: {{Commonist no icon}} --Watchduck (quack) 20:05, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

I second this, if we're gonna use a symbol we should probably use one that isn't banned by various post-Communist governments. EnzoTC (talk) 03:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

I think that "it is banned in several countries" is not a good argument by itself. Plenty of things are banned in multiple countries or were or will be but should not be Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:33, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

I have seen this posted before- when the symbol was chosen, it was done so with one 'tongue in cheek'. The sense of programmers humour that stemmed from Monty Python- twenty five years later humour has changed and in the shadow of Zaporizhzhia a global reversion may be needed. As usual on wikipedia, it is better to propose an alternative than just to oppose. What should the alternative logo look like- and why? ClemRutter (talk) 15:22, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

The joke is about as funny as a swastika (actually worse: 9× as many kills, concentration camps in North Korea and China still working). If there's no alternate logo, no logo is needed. -KiloByte (talk) 16:06, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

I definitely do not want to get into discussion which of turbomurderous regimes was worse (Nazism included murder of millions by design and entirely intended, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost that would happen if Germany would win would dwarf USSR actions). But I think that it is clear that hammer and sickle is symbol of one of the worst regimes in human history, responsible for mass murder and genocide. I see why some may find it funny as edgy humour. But that not makes it OK, in the same way as swastika logo or "I want to rape you" T-shirt are not really welcome types of humour. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:29, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Agreed. Egdy humor has a bit of a tradition in the greater Wikip/media community, but at the very least we should keep that out of our content namespaces. If someone wants to put {{User Commonist}} on their user page, I'm absolutely fine with that, but can we please keep it off of files? El Grafo (talk) 07:57, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Hello, I agree that especially the logo is offensive. "Commonist" does not necessarily refer to "Communist", does ist? Ziko van Dijk (talk) 20:19, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Specific proposal

I propose to create {{Commonist with icon}} and switch current {{Commonist}} to using version without an icon. It would effectively stop showing this icon across almost all files, but give people who really want it ability to get back to the old behaviour. Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:33, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

And I propose not to make choices for other people. Users have chosen to use one or the other template. That choice is to be respected, and not sneakily changed into what some people think they should have chosen. --Watchduck (quack) 19:09, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

Commonist is still needed

Commonist was the most convenient of batch uploading. It did its job. The built in uploader has many features, many additions, many extra checks but suffers from too much handholding that slows you down and trying to make you give extra information that to my mind belongs to a different parallel project. So where is Commonist now? The intobox says use ViunaUploader- that project is no longer supported either.

This topic is circular and maybe already answered elsewhere-if so, tut mir Leid, if not someone needed to start the conversation. ClemRutter (talk) 15:11, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@ClemRutter: Right, the maintainers of these tools need to wake up and smell the coffee. Some may need to buy them coffee first.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 16:07, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

 Support I also miss this tool very much --Molgreen (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

+1 Gruss --Nightflyer (talk) 17:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Same problem, I must upload files one by one since last year, so I am very very late... The Foundation should develop a similar tool as good as Commonist. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 09:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

 Comment I am reasonably sure that anyone who got Pywikibot to work will never miss Commonist again. It is not directly mentioned on Commons:Upload tools. There is only the link to Commons:Command-line upload. To me the documentation looks more complex than necessary. It really boils down to a few short scripts for common use cases. --Watchduck (quack) 10:37, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

 Support ViunaUploader does not work as well as Commonist. It is not a replacement for it. Commonist is needed! --Tom Jac (talk) 13:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

 Support --Quahadi Añtó 13:24, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

 Support --An-d (talk) 21:07, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

 Support Without Commonist I will quit here. --Thirunavukkarasye-Raveendran (talk) 10:17, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Commonist is still needed

Commonist was the most convenient of batch uploading. It did its job. The built in uploader has many features, many additions, many extra checks but suffers from too much handholding that slows you down and trying to make you give extra information that to my mind belongs to a different parallel project. So where is Commonist now? The intobox says use ViunaUploader- that project is no longer supported either.

This topic is circular and maybe already answered elsewhere-if so, tut mir Leid, if not someone needed to start the conversation. ClemRutter (talk) 15:11, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

@ClemRutter: Right, the maintainers of these tools need to wake up and smell the coffee. Some may need to buy them coffee first.   — Jeff G. ツ _{please ping or talk to me} 16:07, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

 Support I also miss this tool very much --Molgreen (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

+1 Gruss --Nightflyer (talk) 17:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Same problem, I must upload files one by one since last year, so I am very very late... The Foundation should develop a similar tool as good as Commonist. Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick (talk) 09:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

 Comment I am reasonably sure that anyone who got Pywikibot to work will never miss Commonist again. It is not directly mentioned on Commons:Upload tools. There is only the link to Commons:Command-line upload. To me the documentation looks more complex than necessary. It really boils down to a few short scripts for common use cases. --Watchduck (quack) 10:37, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

 Support ViunaUploader does not work as well as Commonist. It is not a replacement for it. Commonist is needed! --Tom Jac (talk) 13:25, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

 Support --Quahadi Añtó 13:24, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

 Support --An-d (talk) 21:07, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

 Support Without Commonist I will quit here. --Thirunavukkarasye-Raveendran (talk) 10:17, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

 Support Agreed. A powerful batch upload tool is badly needed. --CEphoto, Uwe Aranas (talk) 21:45, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

 Support I miss the tool too. --Molgreen (talk) 19:01, 11 November 2023 (UTC)