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Discussions 2015

Vietnamese Dragon

Done Created file «Vietnamese Dragon blue, Vietnamese Dragon green». More details…

Wikipedia does still not have an SVG version of the Vietnamese Dragon, that appears on numerous state symbols like File:Drapeau de l'Armée Nationale Vietnamienne.png, or File:Nguyen Imperial Pennon (m2).gif, or [1]. File:Coat of Arms of South Vietnam (1954 - 1955).svg has only rather inaccurate variant, based on the chinese one. Can you draw an SVG, based on the [2] at the top? Colors are somewaht more tricky, I assume that File:Nguyen Imperial Pennon (m2).gif taken from [3] should be the best one.--Antemister (talk) 11:21, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Antemister Right now I have some personal issues and it will maybe take another month before I can look at this. So if you can wait I will get back to you when I'm able to perform that work. --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:09, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

No problem!--Antemister (talk) 18:46, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Just mention that here, in order to avoid forgetting it: Few days after that request here, some guy uploaded File:Personal standard of State Chief Bao Dai.png. It is wrong as the Flag of Bao Dai lookes different (the source link is down, but I do have that book in my shelf), so it also has to be corrected using the new image.--Antemister (talk) 07:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Saw you're uploading files during the last days after a break, do do remember that request?--Antemister (talk) 08:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

Antemister Yes I'm trying to do some work again here. I'm not back fully, recovery takes longer than what I anticipated, so far I have just done minor things. I haven't forgotten your request and my intention is to start on it in short. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:02, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

@Antemister: I have started to work on the dragon now. You can have a look here at a first draft.

There are a lot of things missing and nothing is final. The image you provided as base has a very low resolution so I have to guess a lot especially for the head.

Now I need you to look at this as a first draft and give me feedback before I continue, just tell me what you think. It's very OK to say it's bad or not what you want, just be honest. I need to know everything, the overall, shapes, colors, to much/to less light/shadows and so on, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:12, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

What you did draw is absolutely correct at the moment. That's not engineering, but heraldry, so you do not need to redraw it exactly, but instead in a way that it looks well. Color adaptions will be necessary, but that has to be done later.--Antemister (talk) 22:43, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

@Antemister: Now there is a draft here. It's a drawing with just flat colors and not everything is added at this stage and the colors is to have something to work from.

I want you to look at the whole of the drawing so we can make changes to that before we start with the colors/light and so on. Once we start with that it's much more work to change the drawing (outlines) it self so I would prefer if we can get that as right as it's possible now. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:50, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Once again, this a remarkable work at this stage. I assume you'll add some more structures on the head, right? From my point of view, this is the only part besides the colors that need further work.--Antemister (talk) 22:52, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

@Antemister: Of course I will add more structure to the whole. I need you to tell me what your ideas is concerning the color? Write about it, give me examples and so on, I need that before I continue. It's so much work unnecessary if I don't start of right. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:13, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Just a short answer at this momemt: I assume that [4] is the best source for the color. But: I'll as the editor of that page who maight have seen the original image.--Antemister (talk) 22:07, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

@Antemister: As I haven't heard anything I continued to work on the dragon. You can look at a draft here and then give me feedback.

This is your request and you are the one who has the knowledge and I'm the tool to make it happens, so I'm open for any kind of feedback, you don't have to hold back. Get back to me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:20, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Just to let you know that I did not forget this here: I sent four eMail more than two weeks ago, today I got the second reply, that does not contain more information but another eMail address of some french guy who might know more. We'll have to wait...--Antemister (talk) 21:30, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Did not receive a reply yet, unfortunately. But once I looked on on your draft now, I was astonished! It looks amazingly good! Did you complete it since then? The only issue that remains is the color, and here I got a got interesting information from Andre Flicher, who wrote a long article on that topic (Download, 25 MB). Page 10 shows the royal arms. I asked the guy for the source, and he told me that he got it from Bao Dai himself about 30 years ago. Combining this with other sources, like File:Personal flag of State Chief Bao Dai.JPG and the family coat of arms used today by the descendants of the Nguyen dynasty[5][6], I have this hypothesis: Originally, the dragon was green like File:Nguyen Imperial Pennon (m1).png and later (after 1945), the colors were changed to blue by the State of Vietnam.--Antemister (talk) 10:45, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

@Antemister: Should we do one of each green/blue? I would really like to finish this as it occupies my mind just lying there waiting. --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:34, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes that was my idea behind.--Antemister (talk) 22:33, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Sorry didn't understand that. Do you have a source of a blue also? The ones above are all (latest sources) green.

Have a look at this green draft. Do you want it more intense green or what, give me feed back, thanks --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:00, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

OK, two suggestions for the green variant: 1) Yes, there should be a more intense color shade, but its hard to to define for me how it should be exactly 2) The font and the jags on the back should be yellow, and the "flames" (don't know the correct expression) red, like File:Nguyen Imperial Pennon (m1).png (or the image in the PDF). For the blue variant, see the first paragraph of my request - or any depiction of the south vietnamese CoA. File:Drapeau de l'Armée Nationale Vietnamienne.png should have the most correct color shades.--Antemister (talk) 22:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Is this what you want like this green draft? --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:16, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that are the color shades I wanted to have! You continue with the blue variant.--Antemister (talk) 17:01, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Now there is a blue draft for you to look at.

I will need the following for both of the files so I can upload them ones we are done.

Name of the file
Description
Category/ies --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:27, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the dealys here, but I am extremely busy in RL at the moment. Concerning the blue variant, you should try to do it like File:Drapeau de l'Armée Nationale Vietnamienne.png, using a grey-blue color, with front and the jags on the back in bright grey-blue.

I do not believe that it makes sense to upload the images as single files - the depiction is a part of flags and emblems and does not have a special meaning without.--Antemister (talk) 22:29, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: You don't have to apologize for time, take your time it's not a problem for me. On that flag front and jags are almost white to me but I will add some color we will take it from there. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:23, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Now there is a new blue draft for you to look at. I didn't change the "beard flames" as I'm not sure if you also want that as grey blue. If so just tell me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:56, 3 February 2015 (UTC)

I think the that the blue draft is still to bright - try to use the shade of File:Drapeau de l'Armée Nationale Vietnamienne.png (know the dragon is rather little there), or an even darker one.

I revise my statement that the dragon should not be uploaded as a single image, after I found w:Vietnamese dragon and Category:Vietnamese dragon. That means that there is a use for the image. You can upload them as "Vietnamese dragon (green/blue variant).svg", and describe it as "Depiction of the Vietnamese dragon, as used on flags and emblems", using PD-Vietnam as licence.--Antemister (talk) 20:28, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Now there is a new darker blue draft for you to look at, reload the page to get the new one.

You write that I should use a license which has this template template pd Vietnam. Why, to me none of what is written there applies to these illustrations? They are new illustrations and an interpretation of something. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I thought of an even darker color, but before doing further changes, add it to the coat of arms. With be the yellow background, the color shade might look different than with a white background.

My argumention with the copyright is, of course, a german one. According to german law, redrawing/vectorizing of an existing image does not lead to a new copyright. And you have redrawn a decades, maybe centuries-old image, with an anonymous author that did really before 1960 (anyway, the template is not complete (does not mention all regulations), I'll expand it at some time). I know the copyright situation can be different especially in the US, but I do not know the swedish regulations.--Antemister (talk) 11:08, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Now you can find them here:

Vietnamese Dragon green
Vietnamese Dragon blue
I'm not sure or totally agree on the license but I leave that up to you.
Likewise you will have to check the sources and the category because I didn't find any here at commons for Vietnamese Dragoons.
These are just the illustrations on transparent. If you want other variations you have to tell me exactly what you want. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:06, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

As I said earlier, it is more important to use the dragon for the creation of historic vietnamese flags and emblems, like File:Drapeau de l'Armée Nationale Vietnamienne.png, or File:Nguyen Imperial Pennon (m2).gif. But the easiest and most important one is the 1954-1955 CoA. Replace the dragon in File:Coat of Arms of South Vietnam (1954 - 1955).svg by your (blue) drawing, then we'll see if further adjustments are necessary.--Antemister (talk) 22:24, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: It is now replaced. Get back to me if you need something. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:42, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Saw it on the yellow background, and as I expected before, I feel it is to bright on the yellow backgrund. Use a darker blue, but try to avoid that it become more grey as it is now.--Antemister (talk) 22:22, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Look at this draft and give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Better, but should be still darker.--Antemister (talk) 13:32, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Look at this draft and give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:05, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

After some time at least I hesitate to demand further and further adjustments. Ok, I suggest one further approach to darken it, by adding some slight portion of dark green as well. Then I'll decide what if which variant is better, the current or the new.--Antemister (talk) 18:51, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: I just want to tell you that I DON'T have all the different shades of blue we have tested saved. look at this draft and give me feedback. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:46, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
OK, now from my point of view no futher improvements are possible. Upload the CoA as well as the revised version of the dragon. The actual part of the request is finished then.--Antemister (talk) 22:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: The new versions are uploaded even if the preview isn't changed.

We can start with that one but I will start a new Topic for that on this page, just look further down. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:04, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Done Really!--Antemister (talk) 22:21, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

File:War in donbass.svg

Can you please make a spelling correction on this map? The town marked as "Horivka" on the map is actually called "Horlivka". Also, it would be appreciated if you could verify its location on the map. It seems a bit astray. RGloucester (talk) 04:55, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

The two maps you gav me as base are not the the same regarding projection, proportions so therefore it's really hard to be exact when you combine them. Also the positions of cities and areas can and differ within them.

If I check against this map Horlivka is in the right position and also the rest of the towns. The rebel-held areas include Horlivka on the 18/6 but is excluded on the 28/7 which is correct according to this map. I have moved Horlivka a very very short distance towards west as it in my mape touched the border of one area.
On the other map some of the cities are in a wrong position in our map. This is due to that the two maps doesn't have the same projection, proportions so it's impossible to match them above each other. In this map Horlivka is included in the rebel-held areas of 18/6 (dashed) as in our map. If you look at the brown area Horlivka AND Donetsk is also included in this, but not in our map. To what I recall the brown areas shows 31th of August (I tend to forget ones a map is finished).
I have changed the area of what I recall as 31 August to include Donetsk and Horlivka and you can look at this draft here. I do not have any knowledge of the different subject I create maps for so it's up to you who has the knowledge to check them carefully. Give me feedback on this, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk)

Perfect corrections. Thanks very much. RGloucester (talk) 06:30, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

Done

Arshin mal alan

Hi Goran. So what about this photo? --Interfase (talk) 08:14, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:52, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

The Russian invasion of East Ukraine

Done Created file «Minsk Protocol II». More details…

Hi. Can you create a map similar to this? The new size of the buffer zone - 50 km and Ukrainian line control for 19/09/2014 - 12/02/2015 changed. We really need your help. --

V e O R e T

17:53, 27 лютого 2015 (UTC)

@Veoret: I need more info from you. The map Minsk Protocol.svg I created before had a fixed line of control, from that I created a 15 km wide buffer zone.

You have provided me with two different maps from different dates and they have totally different lines of control. Which one do you want me to use as line of control?

Red Line - this file. Since it is necessary to make the 50 kilometer buffer zone pro-Russian militants. The blue line - that this file. From her spend 50 kilometer buffer zone towards Ukraine. Between blue and red line - uncertain ground.

I can't read the keys for the maps so I don't know which is the 50 km buffer zone?

Thus, Russia has added additional requirements Minsky agreement. Today buffer zone on each side for 50 miles - 100 kilometers together. That decision into second round - Paragraph 2.

If I have totally misunderstood, just explain it thoroughly because I have no knowledge of this subject, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:02, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi) September 5, 2014, the first meeting of the Russia and Ukraine on the peaceful settlement of relations. The parties agreed on the delimitation of zones of influence in eastern Ukraine, pro-Russian forces occupied territory de jure remained part of Ukraine, but de facto - passports, currency, officials were Russian. In January 2015, when Russia was expelled from the Council of Europe for another year, pro troops resumed their offensive in the Ukraine. In order to settle the situation, joined German chancellor Angela Merkel and French president François Hollande. 12 February 2015 with four heads of state held its second meeting in which the agreement between Ukraine and Russia have changed. --

V e O R e T

00:59, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

@Veoret: I'm sorry but I still don't understand. When I compare the to maps 19-09.jpg and 12-02.jpg I can generally just see a difference of the light brown areas, solid or striped. The only red line I can see is on the border towards Russia and the blue line on 12-02.jpg I can't see at all.

- Is it not that you want a buffer zone between the rebels and the Ukraine forces?

I'm sorry that I don't understand but if you can draw some lines on the maps (very simple) and send them to me so I understand, it would probably help me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:09, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

I still can't match your lines with the two sources you have given me, sorry.
There is now a draft to look at here. This is just so that we can get the red and blue lines of control fixed.

Wow, thank you very much, this card is gorgeous. It remains only to create a buffer zone of 50 kilometers on both sides

The red is the same as in file:Minsk Protocol.svg is that correct?
Yes
If not, which area/line in which map 19-09.jpg or 12-02.jpg should the red line follow?
No, no, no, red line remains unchanged
The blue line, which area/line in which map 19-09.jpg or 12-02.jpg should it follow?

You are very well drawn map. Such was the line of demarcation on February 12, 2015

I need something to follow, I have no knowledge of this. You have to provide me with a source I can follow. I do hope you understand, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

I take information from government portal Ukraine — The National Security and Defence Ukraine. Very thank you very much for your help. Your artwork helps to clearly understand what is happening in the Ukrainian-Russian relations. Sincerely --

V e O R e T

20:59, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Have a look at this draft and give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:34, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, thank you, thank you, very, very, very good map. Now I am your debtor. I mostly work at midnight in Ukrainian Wikipedia. Edits mostly article concerning Ukrainian-Russian war and Russian beastliness. Home My account Veoret --

V e O R e

22:05, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, and now I will need the following from you;

Name of the file
Minsk Protocol II
Description
A map of the buffer zone established by the Minsk Protocol II (12/02/2015) during the War in Donbass.
Category/ies at commons
Maps of war in Donbass

to be able to upload it at commons. --Goran tek-en (talk) 09:22, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Now you can find it here Minsk Protocol II. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:24, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
Done

Hi) Rate this article with your pictures. Agree, very harmonious. Thank you again. Ask for help, I was somewhat aware on templates --

V e O R e T

23:59, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

What can I say, I can't read it but the article is VERY big and looks fantastic.

Do you mean that you are good at writing templates with this "I was somewhat aware on templates"? --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:28, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes) Sorry my bad English, I use a translator) --

V e O R e T

14:59, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello Goran

Hi Goran,

Can you create this kind of letter stroke animation? Jaqeli 20:17, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes I guess I can. --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:22, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Can you please create such stroke animation for Georgian letters? The letters are many but if you could make even 1 letter in couple of days that would be great. Here is the letter strokes for the first Georgian script called Asomtavruli and can you please make as an example first letter the way this Japanese letter is animated? Jaqeli 20:52, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: If your intention is to make many in time, it's very important to think thru what you want, how it should look, what size, what speed and so on.

I have made a draft for one letter which you can see here.. The color is not all black as I think its nicer to look at. I didn't put in the green start as it makes no sence to me. This is made with straight lines and I don't really like that, which pen is like that! The lines are also even but to make them with varying thickness is more work. This image is 400*400px and with 25px spacing around. This as a base for all the letters so they look the same.

So have a look at it, talk about it, think it thru and give me feedback. As I said before, it's very important to test the first one so the rest can be done in the same manner. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:12, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Goran. I agree, they should be of same size and format so I'll tell you now what I think. Personally I think that the color and speed can be taken as the Japanese letter has above. I still think that the green start would be also great. So let's make it the way Japanese letter is. Same speed, same letter colors and with green start. I also like the thickness of Japanese letters so maybe if you can please make a bit thicker Georgian Asomtavruli letter as well. And please we don't need that black frame the Japanese letters have, just a white background would do it so no black or whatever color frames on Georgian letters. Jaqeli 13:27, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: New draft for you to give feedback on. I do have the same speed as the other one but who it looks also depend on how much you change each layer in px. So it's very hard to compare like that, it's all about how it looks to you. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:14, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Goran now this is perfect one. Jaqeli 18:36, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: I will need the following;

Name of the file
Description
Category/ies at commons

to be able to upload it at commons. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Name of the file: Asomtavruli letter Ani stroke order animation
Description: same as the name
Category/ies at commons: Asomtavruli letter Ani

Thanks Goran. Jaqeli 17:33, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Now you can find it here Asomtavruli letter Ani stroke order animation. --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:01, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Done

This is perfect Goran. Thanks. Let's follow this format then. When will you be able to make next letters? Jaqeli 20:08, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Do you want all the letters done in this file "Asomtavruli.svg"?
If so I can't give you a specific time frame, I will work on them in between. If you can't "wait" for that then you have to try to find some one else to make them.
It would help me if you gave me all the file names (description the same) and category for each letter. Start in top left corner and work your way right, then next line and so on. Get back to me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:53, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Goran. Now I will write all those for next 5 letters and when you'll make them I will write you next 5 and so on. So here are the next file letters with descriptions. And yes make all those letters from File:Asomtavruli.svg.

letters

DoneLetter 29 Name: Asomtavruli letter Chini stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Chini
DoneLetter 30 Name: Asomtavruli letter Tsani stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Tsani
DoneLetter 31 Name: Asomtavruli letter Dzili stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Dzili
DoneLetter 32 Name: Asomtavruli letter Ts'ili stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Ts'ili
DoneLetter 33 Name: Asomtavruli letter Ch'ari stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Ch'ari
DoneLetter 34 Name: Asomtavruli letter Khani stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Khani
DoneLetter 35 Name: Asomtavruli letter Khari stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Khari
DoneLetter 36 Name: Asomtavruli letter Jani stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Jani
DoneLetter 37 Name: Asomtavruli letter Hae stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Hae
DoneLetter 38 Name: Asomtavruli letter Hoe stroke order animation Description: (same) Category: Asomtavruli letter Hoe

Please make the letters from the current version of File:Asomtavruli.svg. Please also note the letters 32 and 33 need ' sign. Jaqeli 18:48, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:55, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Drapeau de l'Armée Nationale Vietnamienne

Done Created file «Flag of the Vietnamese National Army». More details…

Don't know if you interested in doing the other deriavatives right now. File:Drapeau de l'Armée Nationale Vietnamienne.png is the easiest one, but I'm looking if I find good ready-made fringes.--Antemister (talk) 22:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Did some research and found File:Bonnie_Blue_Flag.svg that has some well-modeled fringes that can be used for the army flag. But before using them, can you "round" the edges, that the twines form the quarter of a circle with a center at the corner? (Difficult to explain, without a sketch...). The improved version of the fringe will also be useful for other flags.--Antemister (talk) 22:44, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

So do you want the fringes were the flag is darker yellow on the three sides?

I will start to look at it in a little while and then I'll see if I understand you. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:07, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Yes, the darker yellow ist the fringe in the PNG, but without a detailed drawing of the twines it is hardly visible here.--Antemister (talk) 22:20, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Now there is draft to look at. It's not complete yet.

I don't have a font which is 100% correct but I will fix the "Q" by hand.

I can't find the symbol "O" with stuff above, third letter on the lower text, can you tell me how to find it.

Also the lower "Ê" looks different from the one above, except for the "." under it, are they the same.

Do you want some color under the fringes otherwise there is some transparent areas. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:11, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Have seen it already two weeks ago, looks as wanted to have it! I did not comment it yet because I'm waitung for a book on that topic which should have reached me at the end of March. A strike of the german postal services might have prolonged the delivery. You find the text at vi:Quốc gia Việt Nam, but don't try to fix the letters by yourself. The fringe looks very good, but I also had the idea to use the color shade of the (low-quality) fringe of File:Military Flag of the United States.svg. But I also believe that it will be not really visible on a plain yellow flag. That's the reason why I wait for the book.--Antemister (talk) 21:42, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, it's always good to know whats going on. I will wait for you to give me new instructions to complete the request. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:47, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

So, got the book now (French business culture was the reason for the delay - six weeks between order and delivery). Anyway, it was worth waiting so long, as the book is of amazing quality, containing hundreds of rare flag images. I copied the relevant page, although the quality of the scan is quite low, at least I (using the original image) can now knows how to depict the fringe: Keep the darker contour, replace color of the interior by the yellow of the flag, and remove the thicker outer end of the single threads.--Antemister (talk) 20:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

The French way. Have a look at this image and tell me how you want the top, flat or topped?

Also I need help with the text as I described above, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 09:36, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Simpler: Top the same as the bottom (in your draft picture). The text is simply ÉTAT DU VIÊT NAM and QUỐC GIA VIỆT NAM.--Antemister (talk) 19:05, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Now there is new draft to look at. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 09:57, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, what I see now leads me to a revocation of my opinion before. For a high-resolution image, same colors for fringe and flag is inappropriate, we cannot keep that. So, please do the following: Don't modify the shape of the single twines, and use the yellow from File:Military Flag of the United States.svg for the color of the twines by retaining the color of the contours.--Antemister (talk) 17:19, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

New draft to look at, give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:39, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely perfect, regarding the colors. But you should keep also the original shape of the twines (from the Bonnie Blue flag), which means the darker contours at their outer ends. What is the problems you have with the text (which should have the yellow of the fringes actually). It looks like as the font you use does not contain all the vietnamese diacritics. Which one did you use/have you tried another one?--Antemister (talk) 21:13, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Must be some misunderstanding from my side.

You wrote "and remove the thicker outer end of the single threads" so I removed the line on the top, but I guess you didn't mean that. No I have put back that line so you will have to tell me if you want me to do something else.
I copied your text from above and I don't know if that includes all the different diacritics. I use Liberation Sans. If I should use some special font you have to tell me. New draft to look at, give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:47, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, maybe you understood it wrong, but, anyway, the fringe is perfect now. Only the issue with the text remain. The letters are correct, but it seems that the font does not contain them, so Inkscape uses a different font for these two letters. I asked experst what to do here.--Antemister (talk) 12:51, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I did check again I realized I forgot the "." so I added them. Is it not just the Q that is wrong? New draft to look at. Get back to me on how to fix the letter/s, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:08, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

The problems are the letters Ố and Ệ. I now used this website [7] where I typed both letters, and, you see, Liberation Sans contains them. Next step: Check if you did use bold type for those two letters, as this seems likely to be so.--Antemister (talk) 19:35, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

I use Bold. To me this letter is correct. If you can search up the two you say are wrong in Bold and give me the links for each character page they have a link to a svg outline page for the letter so I could copy it from there. --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Hm also for me you linked letter looks correct... Another try: Simple change the font you you use, then we'll see if this a font issue.--Antemister (talk) 21:21, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

Because the text is bent I have to turn it into paths because the rendering at commons could become wrong if not. Now I have made a test with three different fonts and then comparing it to the jpg image. To me the three are all the same, and it's only the Q that is different and that I can fix by hand. Check this and tell me what you think is wrong, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:26, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, now the issue seems to be solved. Using DejaVu sans bold or sans bold, it look perfect on my computer. Really, you don't need to try to create a new Q, thats OK if you use a normal font.--Antemister (talk) 11:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

So now there is a draft with the new font to look at.

When we are done I will need the following;

Name of the file (not the same as the png file)
Description
Category/ies at commons

to be able to upload it at commons. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:17, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, upload it as File:Flag of the Vietnamese National Army.svg, description is simple, just use the filename. As categories use Flags of South Vietnam and Flags of Vietnamese National Army (rather arbitrary, the category system needs some cleanup there).--Antemister (talk) 20:22, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Done Now you can find it here Flag of the Vietnamese National Army. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:01, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

OK, looks really good (and the design of the fringe can be used for further projects). Do you want to continue, with the two other flags that contain the dragon? (Anyway, did you get my eMail with the scan from the often-mentioned book?)--Antemister (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

No I didn't get any email from you so you will have to resend it. For the other two you can start New topics for them here and then we continue from there. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:23, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

The Russian invasion of East Ukraine

Done Created file «Liberation_Kramatorsk_agglomeration». More details…

Hi, Please help to create a map of "Battle of Sloviansk". Sincerely, --

V e O R e T

13:28, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Rate your creative new signature, agree cool

:

It's cool but it's not me.

Just as the last time I don't understand what you want me to do.

Do not link to material I don't need to read/view, please remove them.

Done
Do not link to material I can't read, Ukraine, Russian, please remove them.

Done
Tell me exactly which border you want me to change and to what from which file, nothing else.

← The map should look like this
1. For gray zone - this file
2. For brown zone - this file
3. The map put towns - Kramatorsk, Sloviansk, Druzhkivka, Kostiantynivka
4. Arrows - nearly as in the picture
If you have problems to write in English maybe someone else can help you, it would help me a lot. I don't want to do unnecessary work because I don't understand what you want. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:42, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

This is very important map for me. The first area is very beautiful, perfect work. Here you to template for gallery, very useful thing:

Minsk Protocol
Minsk Protocol II
Battle of Debaltseve
Battle of Donetsk Airport map
Map Burgundian Kingdom
Alpine Line 10 June 1940
Battle of Menton (1940)

Now there is a draft for you to look at. You also have to tell me what the legend should read. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:24, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Cool) Extraordinary masterpiece. Great thank you. Sorry for the forgotten legend. It should be like mine. It is a very beautiful map thank you. You can be called a real Ukrainian, because now you know our history well) Feedback? As last time?

Name of the file
Liberation Kramatorsk agglomeration
Description
Map battle for Kramatorsk, Sloviansk, Druzhkivka, and Kostiantynivka during the war in the Donbass (2014)
Category/ies at commons
Maps of war in Donbass

Now You can find it here: Liberation Kramatorsk agglomeration. Check the Legend, also.
It would be really nice and interesting to visit Ukraine some day, I have never been there.
I'm testing your Gallery and maybe I will ask you for some help, maybe, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:34, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Goran tek-en. My gallery 2015
Minsk Protocol
Minsk Protocol II

I have tested your "gallery" and I wonder how to make the images start from left and not centered?

I did try to change center to left but that doesn't work and I guess that is for the whole gallery, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:23, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi) Rate this article with a map, will agree a very very cool) Big thank you) Template «gallery» in modifications «packed-hover» is limited in scope because it has only 3 parameters: «heights», «showfilename» and «caption». Therefore, we must refine it with the code «style». --

V e O R e T

20:15, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't understand what to do to get it beginning to the left? --Goran tek-en (talk) 20:26, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

For the whole structure.:

float:left

For drawings:

text-align:left;

For signatures:

<center>''Minsk Protocol II''</center>

--

V e O R e T

20:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Can I ask you one more thing without asking to much... This image show this page and what I would like.

I would like to have some code to put in between two galleries so I get a 15px distance.

</center>

code for 15px distance

<center>

Is that possible without to much work? --Goran tek-en (talk) 11:46, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

It is very easy, you just write a small parameter:

<div style=margin-top:15px></div>

I just saw what you did above for the other request, very very good, I really like that and if I may use it in other places I would be happy, thanks? --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:31, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Of course use, because I order and creating data templates))) See the laboratory, there very much interesting things)

Thanks for the code, but I can't read the laboratory page, I wish I could. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:18, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Create control panel, will be very beautiful?

One mistake - Districts of damascus map

Hi Goran, there is one thing wrong on this map. Would you be kind to change the color over the name of Kafersouseh from grey to light blue https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipalities_of_Damascus#/media/File:Districts_of_damascus_english.svg

How it should actually look like (Kafersouseh). https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Districts_of_damascus.png

please change also these (same mistakes) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Districts_of_damascus_arabic.png https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Districts_of_damascus_arabic_vector.svg

Thank you very much IbnElJazira (talk) 12:04, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 12:31, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Whenever you have the time..

...if you could revisit File:World War II in Europe, 1942.svg and File:World War II in Europe, 1942 (no labels).svg and introduce a dotted border between Germany proper, and its two internal protectorates: the en:Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia, and the en:General Government. You can easily spot the two borders on in the original Europe 1942.svg file (the only dotted borders anywhere near Germany).

I completely missed this one earlier, my apologies. --DIREKTOR ^(TALK) 21:47, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

I've uploaded a dummy map to highlight the locations. Aside from those above two (now highlighted in green and red at the map), there's the internal border in Slovakia that's also erroneously a full line (highlighted in pink), and we're missing altogether one internal border in occupied Serbia (highlighted at the dummy in yellow). --DIREKTOR ^(TALK) 22:08, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

They are updated now, but I saw afterwards that you had changed some colors in one of the files. I'm sorry but I edited my full Inkscape files as I want an Inkscape copy for easier editing in the future or other purposes. So you will have to redo your color edits, hope that's not to much work. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:49, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Done

Certainly not, thanks again. --DIREKTOR ^(TALK) 17:39, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

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122.169.2.211 15:22, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Australia map

Hey Goran tek-en,

Once again, thanks a bunch for your work on this image of Australia. It has definitely come in handy on the articles and in my opinion itlooks a lot better than the map that was previously used... I have noticed one small issue with it and it's kinda comical that I hadn't noticed it earlier. The map currently shows a large inland sea/lake looking thing in the south-east of the country. I didn't even notice this, until now, but it's actually another state of Australia and indeed the home of our capital city, Canberra. Hahaha. It's a little funny that it took me a few months to notice this, even though it's a city I've been to! I only noticed it when I created this template and noticed that one of the clubs must be playing water polo or something similar. :P

Sorry that I didn't notice this when it was in the Graphics Lab! If you could edit the map to show this as land, that would be awesome and you'd have my utmost gratitude! Cheers! - J man708 (talk) 10:13, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Done The preview usually takes some time to update. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks again!!! - J man708 (talk) 23:38, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Inquiry

Dear Göran,

the wikipedia lacks a good scheme of a en:Sewage treatment plant. The one included here is very old. Could you vectorize this scheme? It's in german, but I've supplied a translation here:

German	English	Number
Zulauf	Intake	1
Rechen	Grill	2
Sandfang	Grit chamber	3
Fettfang	Fat chamber	4
Vorklärbecken	Primary clarifier	5
Belebungsbecken	Activation basin	6
Nachklärbecken	Clarifier-settler	7
Ablauf	Drain	8
Rücklauf	Reflux
Eindicker	(Sludge) thickener	9
Rücklaufschlamm	Reflux sludge
Sekundärschlamm	Secondary sludge
Frischschlamm	Fresh sludge
Hygienisierung	Sterilization	10
Faulturm	Digester	11
Schlammstapel	Sludge tank	12
Gasometer	Gas holder	13

I would be very happy if you could find time to do this.--Kopiersperre (talk) 18:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

I can do that but before I start you will have to provide me with a proper source so that I can see that we are permitted to use it, so get back to me on that, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Source is de:Römpp Lexikon Chemie (h++p://roempp.thieme.de/include/images/r300/RI-159-0604.gif).--Kopiersperre (talk) 21:39, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

You have to be careful concerning Schöpfungshöhe (Treshold of Originality/Verkshöjd, Kopiersperre is also German and will understand). Don't know if it is OK to redraw such a diagram, maybe better ask the experts.--Antemister (talk) 19:11, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Just feel inspired from the template. There is no need to vectorize it 1:1--Kopiersperre (talk) 19:49, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't understand. Do you not want it any more? --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:23, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

I still want it. But I encourage you to differ a little bit from the template, that there is treshold of originality in your work. This is only for calming down the copyright people here.--Kopiersperre (talk) 14:57, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

@Kopiersperre: Now there is a draft for you to look at. I'm not sure this is what you wanted but just give me feedback and we will take it from there, thanks. At position 6 the air bubbles has a almost black ring on my server. This is not the way they will look at wikimedia, I have checked. I will not edit this now, first I want your feedback. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:23, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

This already looks very good. I think it would be better to place text and not numbers inside the scheme, because a sewage treatment plant is not self-explaning.--Kopiersperre (talk) 06:06, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

@Kopiersperre: New draft for you to look at. Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:28, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

The scheme is already from high artistic quality. It must be shown, that the activation basin is very agitated by pressurized air. This basin has just a rectangular section.--Kopiersperre (talk) 19:44, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

@Kopiersperre: Something like this, new draft for you to look at. And as I said before some lines appears to dark here. You can download the draft file and check it here. Uncheck "Check this file for errors", this will render a png in scale 1:1 just so you can see that. Or you can download it and view it in a viewer, Inkscape or other. --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:25, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Do you think it's ready for upload?--Kopiersperre (talk) 20:08, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

@Kopiersperre: I guess that is more up to you. You are the requester and only you know what you want, for me it's ready to be uploaded.

Then I will need the following;

Name of the file
Description
Category/ies at commons

to be able to upload it at commons. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:22, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Sewage treatment scheme.svg // {{en|Scheme of a sewage treatment plant}}{{de|Schema einer Kläranlage}} // Category:Wastewater treatment plants‎ --Kopiersperre (talk) 21:18, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

@Kopiersperre: Now you can find it here Sewage treatment scheme --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:21, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Done

File:Nations_recognising_the_Armenian_Genocide.svg

Hello, Goran,

I am relatively inexperienced Wikipedia contributor. I saw I have done something wrong while trying to revert the Armenian Genocide Recognition Map to a previous version. I am trying to remove the dark green shade of Bulgaria on the map, as Bulgaria actually did not recognise the events as "genocide". On 24 April 2015 the parliament passed a declaration in which it chose to refer to the Armenian Genocide as "mass extermination of Armenians" (or "mass killing") instead. Here is an article on the subject by the Bulgarian News Agency (BTA). Could you please revert the map the right way.

Many thanks, --Goschko (talk) 13:10, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

There is a revert done on that file so I guess it's OK now but please check it. I was asked by someone to make Bulgaria dark green and as I have no knowledge of this I have to trust that the information provided is correct. If you and other editors have different views you can discuss that on the talk page of the file or where the article is. Once all of you have come to an agreement you can ask me to change what is needed, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:51, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Done

God

Hi Goran, can you help in image reconstruction of one god? I need something like this Egyptian god is reconstructed in SVG. Could you help? Jaqeli 17:08, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't understand, the image you link to is a svg file. You have to explain it more for me to understand. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:26, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Can you create that kind of SVG image of a god as that Egyptian one is done? I have description how it should be look like so maybe you could help in constructing that image? That Egyptian god SVG is just an example you could base the new image of god upon to. Jaqeli 19:07, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes I can do that but you will have to provide me with a good source and any other information I need, colors and so on. --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:29, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Here is the description of a god:

a standing man (color bronze)

to his body was attached a golden suit of chain-armour

on his head he had a golden helmet;

he had emerald eyes

he had beryl epaulette

in his hand he held a sabre glittering like lighting

Jaqeli 20:13, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

With this description I can make A LOT of different looking gods. I thought you meant a specif god looking in a more or less specific way. How does a chain-armour look like and so on...

This means I will have to do a lot of research to find images and so on. I'm sorry but you will have give me a more specific information and some good image sources if you want me to be able to do this. Do you want it to be an Egyptian god and in there style of images?--Goran tek-en (talk) 12:37, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes just like SVG god as the Egyptian god is made. Base those information, colors and descriptions on that SVG as it is a good way for god reconstruction. Jaqeli 13:53, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

That's fine but I don't think you understood all of my text above. Read the bold text above and get back to me. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:05, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Just make it a simple SVG outlined just like that Egyptian one is done. It does not really matter how it will look like. Make it simple with simple chain armour, helmet, sabre and with all those colors. Jaqeli 19:02, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

I don't want to annoy you but I'm not really comfortable with this. To me it's really strange you can't provide any other image/s where I can see how you want the different parts to look. As I said before, this god can look in so many different ways and I have to find sources and imagine for me what you want. Maybe when I'm done you will say, no not like that and then I have spent hours in vain. I want to help you but I can't work without the information I have asked for several times. Also for what article or other stuff on Wikimedia will you use this? --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:46, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't have any image or illustration unfortunately of this god. If I had any of course I'd show you. Just make it simple, as long as it has all those characteristics as the description says and with all those colors everything will be great. It is a part of Georgian gods' pantheon and most probably the image will be used in many related articles mostly in Georgian wiki but in English too. Jaqeli 20:17, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Now we will see if this is even remotely like anything what you are looking for, I'm still confused about what you are looking for. Look at this draft and give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:37, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

This is great. Just remove the red tissue from the helmet and that tissue also that is attached to his lower dress. Also just make his lower dress simply golden without those colorful stones. Jaqeli 21:13, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: Look at this draft and give me feedback.

I will need the following;

Name of the file: Armazi god
Description: Armazi god
Category/ies at commons: Mythology of Georgia

to be able to upload it at commons. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:31, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Done. Please if you can also remove that star from his helmet and let it be just golden. Jaqeli 15:55, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Now you can find it here Armazi god --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Done

Tack Goran again. Jaqeli 16:44, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Goran, I've just found a pic depicting God Armazi (in the middle) here. Can you SVG reconstruct it and make it bigger? Jaqeli 00:25, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

If you mean the one standing on the top of the round hill I gueass one can do something but it's really a bad image. Anyway I can't do it now. If you haven't found any one else who can do it in one month you can get back to me. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:26, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Do it whenever you can. I'll wait as it's better if you can make it as you're good at such things. Thanks again. Jaqeli 18:34, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

@Jaqeli: I'm sorry to put it on you but I will have to ask you to request me in a month again. I don't like to have things like that hanging over me and I don't keep a list of stuff like this, so just get back to me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 09:25, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Will do. Thanks Goran. Tack. Jaqeli 18:50, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Flag of Bao Dai

So, next step of the Vietnamese dragon project, hope you have received my eMail, but you can find the image also at File:Personal flag of State Chief Bao Dai.JPG, and only recently a photo was uploaded at File:Norme personnelle de Chef d'Etat Bao Dai.JPG (it is actually the car flag (fig. 100), judging from size, ratio and color of the fringe - according the book, the fringe of the car flag was gold, although the picture shows it in red). So, please vectorize the normal flag, using the green dragon and the pre-fabricated fringe. The color of the fringe is, according to the text in the book and the source, actually red and not purple (use the red of the south vietnamese flag). Don't try to find a new color shade for dragon & structures, your version suits well.--Antemister (talk) 21:43, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
@Antemister: Which do you mean by "vectorize the normal flag"? --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:39, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

There is the standard flag (fig. 99), to be flown on building etc., and the car flag (fig.10). The relevant one to be vectorized is of course the standard flag. If you want you can also vectorize the car flag (shouldn't be that much work), but that is not important.--Antemister (talk) 16:20, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Now there is a first draft for you to look at. The shape of the dragoon is very different is that OK? I have just done a few of the figures so that you can tell me if this is somewhat right? Give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:53, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, keep the dragon as it is. Flags/emblems designed in the pre-computer age often show severe differences if you compare different sources, the degree of details depends on the abilities/time of the artist. The two structures are well-drawn according to the source file. A further note concerning the fringe: Looking at your draft, I actually see the car flag there, as the fringe is to large for a normal flag. For the normal flag, the same fringe from the army flag should be used. What you also should do is replacing the "dark-yellow" contours by dark-red ones.--Antemister (talk) 21:43, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: But you told me to use fig99 and in that the fringles are that long. I will change to the other ones but then I will change the overall shape of the flag compared to the source fig99.

New draft to look at. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:05, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

OK, well done, don't see any possibilities to improve. The only remaining issue is the exact ratio of normal and car flag mentioned in the book. I do not have the book here at the moment, so you have to wait until friday before final upload.--Antemister (talk) 16:34, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Had a look into the book, but the informtionen is not as detailed as I presumed (exact ratios are provided only for later flags). The text tells that the car flag was "almost quadratic", but actually you should refer to the photo at File:Norme personnelle de Chef d'Etat Bao Dai.JPG, that's the best source one could imagine. For the normal flag, use the ratio of the South Vietnamese flag.--Antemister (talk) 09:08, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Now there is a new draft for you to look at. I didn't intend to do the car flag, anyway not now if that's OK with you.
I will need the following;

Name of the file
Description
Category/ies at commons

to be able to upload it at commons, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:41, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

The name is a somewhat difficult issue here if you want to make it both short and descriptive: Flag of Bao Dai (1948-1955).svg should be suitable. The description has to be more detailed: Flag of Bao Dai as Head of State of the State of Vietnam (1948-1955). The relevant categories are Emperor Bảo Đại and State of Vietnam.--Antemister (talk) 20:26, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

I didn't know if we could give the book as a source, if you know it's OK you can add it.

Now you can find it here Flag of Bao Dai (1948-1955) --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:26, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Now also added a the source.--Antemister (talk) 11:09, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Done

Updates to the Android version history chart

Hello! June 2015 version distribution data is now available – any chances, please, for updating the File:Android historical version distribution - vector.svg chart? Any help would be appreciated! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 20:55, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:36, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 03:20, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Just as a note, due to an unknown reason the July 2015 version distribution data hasn't been publicized, we'll see when will it become available for August. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 07:47, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

August 2015 version distribution data is now available – any chances, please, for updating the File:Android historical version distribution - vector.svg chart? It should be also noted in the chart that the July 2015 data is unavailable, similarly to how it's been already done for the missing October 2014 data. Any help would be appreciated! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 07:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Updated, but I'm not sure about the date. All the rest has 14th of the month but August was released on the 3 what I can see. I put 14th in the file because I was not sure. If you want me to change just tell me. Also it would be god to know if I should use the date on the page or always 14th? --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:47, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much! That's a very good remark, and IMHO it would be the best to ditch the days completely and switch to the "MMM YYYY" format for the x-axis labels altogether. As you've noted, version distribution data snapshots are not taken at the same day every month, so specifying the dates in labels is rather useless. Also, we should probably go with the month names abbreviated to three letters ("Jan 2015", "Feb 2015", "Mar 2015", etc.) to make the x-axis less crowded and more readable. Hope you agree. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 14:27, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

New version uploaded and I agree. The snapshots are actually taken during a seven day period so in this the last update it's both July and August. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:58, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Looks great, as always! Thank you very much! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 19:43, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

September 2015 version distribution data is now available – any chances, please, for updating the File:Android historical version distribution - vector.svg chart? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 01:28, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Updated -- Goran tek-en (talk) 18:31, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Looks great, as always! Thank you very much! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 12:29, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

October 2015 version distribution data is now available – any chances, please, for updating the File:Android historical version distribution - vector.svg chart? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 08:37, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Updated, I have just moved 500 km so it took some time to get this update done. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

No worries, thank you very much! Hope everything turned out fine in your new place. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 18:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

November 2015 version distribution data is now available – any chances, please, for updating the File:Android historical version distribution - vector.svg chart? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 21:00, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Updated --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:18, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Looks great, as always, thank you very much! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 22:14, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

It's that time of the month again, December 2015 version distribution data is now available – any chances, please, for updating the File:Android historical version distribution - vector.svg chart? — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 20:41, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:29, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you very much! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 21:36, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Here we go again, January 2016 version distribution data is now available. Happy new year! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 18:33, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 15:54, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Good job as always, thank you very much! — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 19:10, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Request

Hello! Can you please help out here? Thank you--باسم (talk) 08:28, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

This is a bitmap (jpg) image and not easily translated just like that. You will have to remove the existing texts carefully first.

Will there be a need for more translations later on? If so then I think it would be worth to make it into a svg file.

Anyway I have to much going on right now. If you don't get any help within three weeks you can get back to me and I will help you, but I will still need answer to my question above, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:50, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

No i don't think there will be any need for future translations. I usually translate jpg files myself and it takes some time, but eventually its worth it. I Couldn't translate this one because of how the background is, thats why i came to the workshop. Anyway, I'll keep it there and be back in case no one helped, as you said. Thank you--باسم (talk) 11:31, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Done

File:BorromeanRings gray.svg

Not exactly sure what the purpose of this is, since the chosen color scheme obscures the crossings... AnonMoos (talk) 10:28, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

To me it's very clear which is crossing which line. I can'r see any problems there. --Goran tek-en (talk) 10:43, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

Chinese for File:China Airlines Flight 140 EN.svg

Hi, Goran! I got Chinese from zh:User:Alvin Lee (whenever he presents a choice I pick one) - Taiwanese Traditional Chinese: A Attendant seat 乘務員座位 B Bustle 撤離滑梯 C Coat stowage 上衣儲藏間 D Doghouse 儲藏箱 G Galley 廚房 L Lavatory 廁所 Seat arrangement chart 座位安排表 Airbus 空中巴士 Wing position 機翼位置 Seats occupied by survivors 生還者的座位 Seats were not occupied 空座 All other seats occupied by deceased 其他均為死者的座位

- Mainland Simplified Chinese: A Attendant seat 乘务员座位 B Bustle 撤离滑梯 C Coat stowage 上衣储藏间 D Doghouse 储藏箱 G Galley 厨房 L Lavatory 廁所 Seat arrangement chart 座位安排表 Airbus 空中客車 Wing position 机翼位置 Seats occupied by survivors 生还者的座位 Seats were not occupied 空座 All other seats occupied by deceased 其他均为死者的座位

Sorry it took so long! WhisperToMe (talk) 07:55, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

@WhisperToMe: Check the two drafts and if the language abbreviation in the file name is correct.

Taiwan one is correct. Mainland China is usually "zh-cn" with an "n." Thank you so much for your help! WhisperToMe (talk) 11:55, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Seat map of China Airlines Flight 140 (Mainland Simplified Chinese).
Seat map of China Airlines Flight 140 (Taiwanese Traditional Chinese).
Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:24, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! Both files are now in use at zh:中華航空140號班機空難. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:38, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	For all your hard work on the Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop. Thank you very much! — Dsimic (talk \| contribs) 02:12, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

	The Graphic Designer's Barnstar
	I'll give you another, for your hard work in internationalizing seat maps about air crashes. It's important that people receive information in the languages they are most comfortable with. WhisperToMe (talk) 17:54, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Concerning my previous request

Hello again! No one has helped in translating this map up untill now, and its already 3 weeks, so if you could help out whenever you have the time it would be great. Thanks again --باسم (talk) 07:37, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
Done

The last vietnamese dragon

A fourth and last flag can be drawn using your vietnamese dragon: File:Nguyen Imperial Pennon (m1).png. Can you do it?--Antemister (talk) 11:49, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Yep, can do. --Goran tek-en (talk) 13:40, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Have a look at this draft and give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:33, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Short feedback now: Absolutely perfect at the first try! Upload it as "Flag of the Imperial Palace of Annam.svg", then also upload only the flag without flagpole and pennon as "Car flag of the Emperor of Annam.svg". Actually, the descriptions are rather contradictorily: According to the book, it was used on the palace, but also as car flag, while [8] calls it a "Fanion", e. g. a car flag, but a pennon on a car...? Hope my assumption here is correct.--Antemister (talk) 21:43, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

@Antemister: Now you can find them here;

but you should check the descriptions and categories, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:26, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Done

Took some time to get proper Internet access here in Värmland. Perfect work from you, I'll check the description later, when I'm back home next year, as I do have my complete material here in Sweden.--Antemister (talk) 21:12, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

So you are in Sweden Not "too far" from me right now. --Goran tek-en (talk) 09:52, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Back home, now I revised the descriptions.--Antemister (talk) 13:33, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

Oligarchs in the Kingdom of Hungary 14th century

Hello! Thank you for creating and uploading File:Oligarchs in the Kingdom of Hungary 14th century.svg to the Wikimedia Commons, this is a very useful map. However, there are some minor errors (mostly typo) in your image, I'd like to draw your attention to them: "Holly Roman Empire" --> Holy Roman Empire is the correct form; "Poland Ujlak" --> what does it mean? Simply Poland is would be enough, I think; "Serbia Havasalföld" --> Before 1330s, Wallachia (Havasalföld) did not exist, so this is anachronistic info in this map, simply Serbia is enough; "War of unification" title --> War of Unification; as in foreign language texts, Hungarians use the Western name order, it would be more appropriate to use here too --> Máté Csák, István Ákos, Amadé Aba, Kőszegis, Rátóts etc. keep up the good work, regards --Norden1990 (talk) 20:50, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

@Norden1990: Hi and thanks for the input. As I'm sure you know I do graphic work and as good as always I have zero knowledge of the subject for the map. This map was created as a request by @BokicaK: and he provided me with the information and translations and approved the map before uploading.

So this puts me in a dilemma, who is right?

I would appreciate if the both of you could discuss this and then get back to me with what you want changed, and I will do that.

I just want the map to be as correct it can but I have to trust in what people tell me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 14:33, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

OK, I hope we could discuss it. However, there are some typos and facts, where we don't need confirmation. en:Holy Roman Empire and not "Holly"; "Ujlak" is a name of some Hungarian settlements or areas (hu:Újlak (egyértelműsítő lap)), so I don't get it... "Lengyel Királyság" = "Kingdom of Poland". en:Wallachia was established only in 1330, in addition it appeared at wrong place in the map. Before Wallachia, the territory was ruled by the Golden Horde (as it correctly appears in your map), but the situation is very vague. I am a native speaker of Hungarian, contrast to User:BokicaK. --Norden1990 (talk) 16:44, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@Norden1990: It's very good you are a native Hungarian speaker. I did ask BokicaK to write all the texts so that I would get all the different letters correct but I didn't get all. I have changed most of what you wrote (if I understood everything) so I would like you to check this draft and give me feedback. If you want me to change any more names etc you will have to write it exactly for me, I can't guess, thanks. I do believe you regarding the typo stuff and for the disputed things it's good if you two can agree on something so I don't have to change all the time, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:56, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks four your effort. the name of the neighboring countries (Serbia, Poland etc.) are now good. In English-language historiography, medieval names are usually Anglicized, and we have articles about most of these oligarchs under those names, so, I suggest modification of the lords' names, here: Matthew Csák, Stephen Ákos, Rátóts, Amadeus Aba, Nicholas Pok, James Borsa, Ladislaus Kán, Ugrin Csák, Kőszegis, Paul Šubić, Stephen Babonić, Dujam Frankopan (the latter three were Croatian nobles, thus surname changes also needed). Unfortunately, I am inappropriate for image editing :( --Norden1990 (talk) 20:23, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@Norden1990: It would have been easier if you gave me both the name on the map corresponding to the new one, I had to guess for some and this one "Stephen Ákos" I don't know were to put, you have to tell me.

Check this draft and give me feedback, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:54, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

István Ákos = Stephen Ákos (the small province in North-Hungary, between Csák and Aba). Otherwise, the other modifications are OK. Thanks. --Norden1990 (talk) 22:28, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

@Norden1990: New version uploaded.
Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:34, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Now it's OK. Thank you very much and I appreciate your patience and work. --Norden1990 (talk) 09:37, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

File:World map of long and short scales.svg

Dear Goran tek-en, it is certainly a good idea to make maps on commons with colorblind friendly color systems and I appreciate that you do. However, if you modify an existing file which is used in several Wikipedia language editions as this one, what do you think happens with all the legends in these Wikipedias? Right, they won't fit the map any more. And since no change has been made on the local Wikipedia, it won't even show up on anybodies watch list. It was only by chance that I noticed that some reader complained about the mismatched colors today and thus could fix it for the German edition. I assume most of the other language versions are still messed up.

I'd like to suggest two options for the future. Either you leave the old file untouched and create a new one. To make the new version known, you could write a short announcement on the discussion pages in the language editions using the file. Or, you do alter the original file but also correct the various language versions. Or at the very least put a note with respect to the required change on the individual discussion pages.

Just changing the file on commons without caring about the mess caused in the Wikipedias should not be an option. Best regards Dietzel65 (talk) 14:27, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Dietzel65 and Nyttend: Hi, it's correct that I made the graphic work on that file but if you check towards the end of the request Color_coding_on_map you can see that I asked the requester for information to upload it as a NEW file. The requester told me that I should upload it on top of the current one.

I'm a graphic worker and it's really hard for me to know why something is requested or how it will be used, that has to be the responsibility of the requester. Of course I use my common sense to avoid the most crazy things and I think I did. I DID change the key of the file because so much I understood. So really you should turn your correct feed back to the requester as I see it.

I can see the problems that occurred so I will upload it as a new file and revert the "original" one. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:32, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I will change the captions. Please don't waste your time uploading it as a new file, because it will make a histmerge necessary. Nyttend (talk) 16:41, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I didn't see your replay until I uploaded a new version World map of long and short scales colorblind and I don't understand what you mean by "histmerge necessary"? --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:57, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

@Nyttend: I'm not sure that I like that you delete a file that I have made and uploaded as a separate file. That feels like you run over me. I do understand your reason but it feels strange. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:32, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

"Histmerge necessary": I initially thought that a history merge would be needed, but since you'd previously uploaded the new image in the right place, a simple reversion got the job done. Policy says that simple improvements get uploaded under the same filename, not under separate ones, and duplicate images get deleted. I value your changes enough that I made the new version useful on a bunch of Wikipedias, even figuring out Swahili color words to ensure that the captions reflected the new colors. Nyttend (talk) 17:36, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, guys, for taking care of this so quickly. From the file history, user:Goran tek-en was the only one that could be addressed. Maybe in the future you want to add something like "as requested by XX" to the comment in similar cases, so that potential complaints just might go that other way :-) Cheers, Dietzel65 (talk) 08:27, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for having to come back to this. I would like to keep the discussion at one site so I ping @Nyttend: . It turned out that the colors in the legend where mixed up. I now added the actual colors to the legend and this made it pretty clear. Should have noticed earlier, unfortunately didn't consider that this might be wrong and just copied. "short" must be in the US, "long" in continental Europe, "both" in Canada, "other" in India. These were the easiest controls for me. Also, I tried hard but could not actually find any "no data" countries (although Antarctica might have been a good choice) so I commented out this line from the legend. Please correct if I overlooked something.

Another question is more general, the choice of colors. At least I and another person who helped me to sort this out on the screen (both normal color sight) found it rather difficult to distinguish these various shades of green and blue. And I wonder if various shades running from cyan to red or blue to yellow would not be better choices. No idea if there is some consensus on that. Regards, Dietzel65 (talk) 11:38, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

@Dietzel65: @Nyttend: You (Dietzel65) should not go in and edit stuff if you are not sure what you do. Also you could have read the request because then you would have seen that there actually exist areas with no data.This is what was to read in the request Actually there where five different colors but one "no data" is just two tiny areas, one in central Africa and one south east of India. What I have done is to change around two colors so "no data" now has a dark blue instead of the pale yellow. I hope that is better. You have to correct what you have done, not me. First of all I don't no where you have done it and you are the one responsible for it. What you have done in the legends I have no idea and to me I'm responsible for the map not how it's used.

The colors are chosen by the use of this page http://colorbrewer2.org/ (can also be read in the request) setting it up for the appropriate circumstances. To me this is the only way to get it right as there are so many ways you can be having problems with colors. If you want to make another version, go ahead but please don't mix with this one. So correct what you have changed so it's back to what it was before that, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:54, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Oh my, Goran tek-en, really, did you ever take an argument more serious because it was shouted at you?

Well, I did look through the page of the map, but I didn't think it might be necessary to also browse through the wiki links to find important information, i.e. the request.

Anyway, let's get constructive. With your pointers I was able to find the tiny 'no data' area in Africa (Burundi) and Asia (Brunei) and I added this information to the legend, to make it easier for others. Of course I put back the 'no data' to the legend.

But let's not forget the major point of my previous post: The legend in the previous versions was wrong (10 Nov, 12 Nov), assigning e.g. pale green (and thus e.g. west and central Europe) to "neither" (10 Nov) or "short" while it is actually the long scale that is used there. I didn't say it was your fault and frankly, I could not care less whose fault it was, but a fault it was. That is what I mainly corrected. And I am afraid that @Nyttend: might have used these wrong assignments when going through the other language Wikipedias. This concern was the major reason to revive the discussion here.

Thanks for the pointer to the Color Brewer. This might come in handy. Best regards Dietzel65 (talk) 21:58, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

@Dietzel65: Thanks for your input/correction and I would like to explain that the bold text was meant to emphasize not to shout. If you know of any other way to emphasize please tell me, I want to know for further occasions. As you say, the result is the purpose so who did what "god or bad" doesn't matter, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 08:24, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

It was not only the bold type, it was also the wording (using imperative), but whatever. Print in Italics looks less pushy, I'd say. Cheers. Dietzel65 (talk) 16:35, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, I'm learning how to behave here so I appreciate it. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:45, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

A New Request

Hello hope you are doing well. Can you help in this request whenever you have some time? Thank youباسم (talk) 15:40, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

@باسم: I have seen it and was thinking of taking it and I will do so. --Goran tek-en (talk) 16:46, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much

please inform me if you had any trouble dealing with Arabic fontsباسم (talk) 16:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Done --Goran tek-en (talk) 19:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello again. Sorry to keep asking often, but really you are almost the fastest person to react to those requests. Whenever you have the time can you take a look at these 2 requests. Thank youباسم (talk) 11:40, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello Mr.Goran

Hello, hope you are good . I'm Ala'a Najjar an editor in Arabic wiki and contribute into ar-Graphics Lab, wish that I can help in photo translation here especially Arabic and GIF one, and really I'd to say thanks for all effort that you do. with all respect. Ala'a Najjar (talk) 16:53, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
Nice to hear from you, thanks. I did write a replay in the request so if you want to work on it that's very good for me. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Fotobank watermark removing

Hi, Goran. Could you please teach me how did you remove watermark for example from this image? Did you use some software like GIMP or something else? I would like to do it myself and not disturb graphical workshop editors in the future. Thanks, Interfase (talk) 07:38, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
@Interfase: Yes I do use GIMP and a tool named "Clone Tool". There are different settings in that tool if you double click on it.
Here you can find information about the tool. and if you press F1 within GIMP the Help appears.
You do need to practice and get a feeling of what the tool does. You can search and find more information online. I also use "Free Select Tool" so that I can work inside or outside an area, very good when different colors or tones are close to each other. I don't know what experience you have but it takes some time to get this right and it's good to have a feeling for colors, some drawing and so on. It's really not so much more I can say, I'm sure different people do this work in different ways so you have to find out what works for you, just practice. If you think I can help you any further just contact me, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 18:51, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Goran. I will play with it. P.S. It's nice to have such responsive people here. --Interfase (talk) 19:39, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

I thought that was what this is all about, helping and sharing. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:13, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Gastrointestinal wall image use

Hello Goran,

We are a pharmaceutical company and we'd like to use your image 'gastrointestinal wall' accessed here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/31/Layers_of_the_GI_Tract_english.svg/692px-Layers_of_the_GI_Tract_english.svg.png This image will help us in explanation of how our product works in the gastrointestinal wall. This product treats acute diarrhea. Is it possible to use your image? Should we cite it somehow? Thank you for your response. Walmark, Czech Republic (http://www.walmark.eu/en/) — Preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.168.46.252 (talk) 09:59, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi and thank you for asking. According to CC BY-SA 3.0 license you can use this if you give credit according to this: "By Goran tek-en CC BY-SA 3.0, via Wikimedia Commons".

I don't know how you will use it, website, print or other form but the svg-original file can be found here svg-original. At this page you can also download different png versions, sizes. If you need any other size and you can't convert it your self just contact me. Png is a much better format compared to jpg. Png does not remove any information as jpg does and you do not get the typical jpg artefacts.

There is also one numbered version if that is better for you.

It would be nice if you could send me a link or something where it's used, thanks. --Goran tek-en (talk) 17:11, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Denmark in illustration as "German allies, co-belligerents and puppet states" ?

Hello Goran tek-en,

As the author of File:World War II in Europe, 1942.svg I hope you will find this discussion relevant. Lklundin (talk) 16:28, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

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