User talk:Pbrks/Archives/2022

Review

Hi. Could you help me review files in Category:COVID-19 pandemic in Ho Chi Minh City? Thank you. ⁂๖ۣۜJon ♥ ๖ۣۜDaenerys໖ 10:03, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

@Nguyenhai314:  Done – Pbrks ^(t • c) 16:53, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you. By the way, there're two more my uploads needed to review: File:Lâm Khánh Chi.png and File:Cát Phượng 2021.png. Thanks in advance ⁂๖ۣۜJon ♥ ๖ۣۜDaenerys໖ 01:46, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

File:Intellivision Amico Controller (extracted).png

File:Intellivision Amico Controller (extracted).png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Daltonsatom (talk) 07:20, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Warhammer pics

Aside from the fact that Games Workshop doesn't care about player photos of its minis, photos like File:Warhammer Fantasy RedCraig.jpg may fall under the de minimis priniciple (WP:DM) because the minis are so small in the photograph that you can barely recognize them as bona fide GW minis. As they say, the law does not deal with trifles. Kurzon (talk) 20:41, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

@Kurzon: Hello. I had already reverted the speedy delete tag, as I did not see the accompanied template in the licensing until a bit later. Sorry for that! – Pbrks ^(t • c) 20:43, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

I know. But that template is just GW's policy, it does not concern de minimis, so I want to talk about that. De minimis would not apply to File:DeathGuardMarine.jpg, which is a close-up of a GW mini in high resolution, specifically shot to capture the design in detail. I do think de minimis applies to any full shot of a WH game such as File:Warhammer Fantasy RedCraig.jpg. Kurzon (talk) 20:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

@Kurzon: It seems that GW releases all claims to any photograph taken of their products, from what I understand, so there is no reason to consider de minimis, as de minimis only concerns items that are non-free. If, however, GW did not make such a claim, the work would not fall under de minimis, as the product is the main focus of the image. More specifics can be seen at COM:De minimis#Guidelines; basically, the image would fail in all six of the guidelines. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 22:28, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Those are guidelines, not hard rules. I think File:Warhammer Fantasy RedCraig.jpg would fall under de minimis because somebody who wants to make counterfeit copy of a GW mini would not find it to be a useful reference image. The image isn't of "a product", but lots of GW products, each depicted in such low resolution as to be barely recognizable. Kurzon (talk) 23:20, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

@Kurzon: If something fails every guideline, it very likely breaks the rules. It is a moot point, in any event. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 02:08, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Kurzon: To add, the resolution of the copyrighted work does not really matter. If it were so, I would be allowed to upload, say, en:File:Overwatch cover art.jpg at a very small resolution (e.g. 50 px width) here on Commons. Of course, this is not allowed, even though it would be too small to be of any use. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 02:13, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

The resolution matters if a particular mini is so small in the picture that it is but a trifle, and the law does not deal with trifles. What File:Warhammer Fantasy RedCraig.jpg captures is a game of Warhammer Fantasy. Games Workshop owns the copyright on the individual minis but not the composition of this picture. I would compare it to a photograph of a soccer game. We have plenty of photos of soccer games on the Commons, and they all have copyrighted stuff appearing in them, such as advertisements boards and player uniforms. Yet they are permitted because these individual works have trifling depictions in the photos. Kurzon (talk) 09:54, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

I talked with some lawyers on Reddit (they say they're lawyers) and they think that Wikimedia would likely win the case if GW challenged the use of File:Warhammer Fantasy RedCraig.jpg. Kurzon (talk) 18:11, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

@Kurzon: I read the conversation. "I think you might win" is by no means "likely". At the end of the day, this is just my thoughts on the matter; I am no legal expert. I believe that the consensus here on Commons would be that it is not de minimis. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 18:19, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Insignia of Regiments of Indian Army

Hello @Pbrks:

I request you to please create SVG vector images of insignia of Indian Army's regiments. If you wish to do so here is the list of insignia -

• Assam Regiment
• Bihar Regiment
• Brigade of the Guards
• Dogra Regiment
• Garhwal Rifles
• Jammu and Kashmir Light Infantry
• Jammu and Kashmir Rifles
• Jat Regiment
• Kumaon Regiment
• Madras Regiment
• Mahar Regiment
• Maratha Regiment
• Mechanised Infantry Regiment
• Naga Regiment
• Punjab Regiment
• Rajputana Rifles
• Rajput Regiment
• Sikh Light Infantry
• Sikh Regiment
• The Grenadiers

Thanks and hope you will respond.

Regards Soap Boy 1 (talk) 10:25, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

Picture on Murder of Shamil Odamanov

Dear @Pbrks,

I've added pictures from the murder video to the page Murder of Shamil Odamanov, but I believe that you've flagged them as violating the rights of the author of the pictures. These are screenshots from the murder video, freely distributed on all the news websites. Using these screenshots can't violate any rights unless someone is willing to take responsibility for the murder. I would like to ask you to reconsider your decision. Thank you.

Ghost of Shamil (talk) 07:32, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ghost of Shamil: The videos being used on news websites does not make the video free to use. You can request undeletion at Commons:Undeletion requests if you believe that the images should not have been deleted. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 16:14, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Pbrk: The pictures on the page Murder of Shamil Odamanov are taken from the murder video itself, not the news. Using these photos doesn't violate anyone's rights because claiming ownership of these photos means taking responsibility for the murder. It's like the photo of the Jihadi John on this page: Here's another example, the execution of [ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Pearl Daniel Pearl]: If you scroll down you will find a screenshot from his execution. No one gonna come and claim his artistic rights were violated by Wikipedia by using this screenshot. Same with our page. Don't you agree? I would really appreciate if you could reconsider and undelete the photos. None of the photos posted violates commons. Cheers! Ghost of Shamil (talk) 16:20, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ghost of Shamil: The images en:File:Jihadi John.jpg and en:File:DanielPearl.PNG are being used under a fair-use claims on Wikipedia and do not exist on Commons. That is, we are still respecting thier copyright, but we believe that they qualify as fair use to be used in those specific articles only. See en:Wikipedia:Non-free content for more information. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 16:26, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Pbrks Would you please help me migrate these screenshots to the fair-use claim? I afraid that if I do it myself I'll press all the wrong buttons. Ghost of Shamil (talk) 16:29, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ghost of Shamil: I recommend you do it yourself. Let me know once you have, and I will make sure that it everything was done correctly. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 16:39, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@PbrksI reuploaded it multiple times and it always deleted by someone... :/ Ghost of Shamil (talk) 16:51, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Ghost of Shamil: Upload it on Wikipedia (not Commons), and let me know once you have. I will check to make sure that everything is correct. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 16:56, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@PbrksCan you please tell me where should I upload it? I know only commons.Ghost of Shamil (talk) 16:56, 18 February 2022

@Ghost of Shamil: en:Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 17:03, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

File:Flag of South Korea (1949–1984).svg

Hi Pbrks, do you have any source stating the flag of South Korea was look like that image from 1949 to 1984? I think it should be the same as File:Flag of South Korea (1984–1997).svg. Since the 1949 flag law and the 1984 flag law gave the same geometry of the flag. Also, the article of the flag of South Korea in Namuwiki (a popular Korean wiki) states that the (1949–1984) image in Wikimedia Commons is questionable.--Mike Rohsopht (talk) 09:06, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Mike Rohsopht: No. I made the SVG images, which were based on their PNG counterparts (e.g. File:Flag of South Korea (1949–1984).png), upon request from another user. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 16:16, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Remove timestamps?

Dear Pbrks,

You "removed a timestamp" here : https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3AASC_Leiden_-_van_de_Bruinhorst_Collection_-_Somaliland_2019_-_4462_-_A_food_stall_run_by_women_in_pink_and_purple_shawls_with_children_under_a_roof_of_corrugated_iron.jpg&type=revision&diff=569432108&oldid=565648402 . I just wonder why. As an ex-museum guy, for me originals are sacrosanct and should in principle not be touched (of course you did not overwrite the original, thanks). So as uploader of the image i just wonder what happened and why? Thank you with Cheers, Hansmuller (talk) 10:04, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

The removal was upon my request, as I think timestamps make photographs less useful and attractive, whereas the information is also contained in the Exif-data. Vysotsky (talk) 14:53, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

@Hansmuller: Hello. Yes, I removed the timestamp from the image. Commons generally discouraged visible textual information in an image, such as timestamps, watermarks, etc. It is preferred that that information be in the EXIF data and/or in the image description page (see COM:EXIF). – Pbrks ^(t • c) 14:55, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

@Vysotsky Dear Pbrks, This is a fundamentally wrong stance, at variance with best practice worldwide. We have to accept historical documents as they come and are - although they might well be "preferred" otherwise - and should not subjectively - "I think" - embellish them etcetera. Timestamps were an integral part of many images from the first century of the digital age. Likewise we don't remove the dates from paintings in a museum, just because perhaps in a later age we don't like them, isn't it? In my time machine I could easily go back to Hastings, now UK, in 1066 and reverse the outcome of the fateful battle there... but I shouldn't :-)). You agree? Thanks, Hansmuller (talk) 15:26, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

I can’t say I agree. I, along with the majority of Commons users, see no reason to have timestamps on images. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 18:09, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

File:Tech Port Center + Arena.png

Hi, why did you F7-tag this image? --Túrelio (talk) 07:09, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Túrelio: Hello. After transfer, the image did not render (two different browsers), so I assumed something awry in the transfer process. Did the image load on your end? – Pbrks ^(t • c) 14:47, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi, yes, it did. But in between it has been deleted by a colleague. --Túrelio (talk) 06:29, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Help about SVGs

I'm still new to doing SVGs and it's took ages to get my head around doing them properly etc. Do you use Illustrator and if so, what's your process for saving them etc ??

Thanks, 20Panorama15 (talk) 17:10, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@20Panorama15: Hi. No, I use Inkscape. For the logos, you need to convert your text to paths. This page may be helpful (#5, just the first two bullet points). – Pbrks ^(t • c) 17:23, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks I've also found this tutorial, steps 4 and 5 in particular when it comes to exporting them for web. 20Panorama15 (talk) 17:35, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

@20Panorama15: Sounds good. Let me know if you have any other questions. – Pbrks ^(t • c) 17:38, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks again. 20Panorama15 (talk) 17:45, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

sraka

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File:Albert Cameron Burrage (1859–1931).png

File:Albert Cameron Burrage (1859–1931).png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 15:05, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

File:Louis Richmond Cheney.png

File:Louis Richmond Cheney.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 19:17, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

File:Chester E. Bryan.png

File:Chester E. Bryan.png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 07:48, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

File:Hippolyte Delehaye (1859–1941).png

File:Hippolyte Delehaye (1859–1941).png has been listed at Commons:Deletion requests so that the community can discuss whether it should be kept or not. We would appreciate it if you could go to voice your opinion about this at its entry. If you created this file, please note that the fact that it has been proposed for deletion does not necessarily mean that we do not value your kind contribution. It simply means that one person believes that there is some specific problem with it, such as a copyright issue. Please see Commons:But it's my own work! for a guide on how to address these issues. Please remember to respond to and – if appropriate – contradict the arguments supporting deletion. Arguments which focus on the nominator will not affect the result of the nomination. Thank you!

Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 14:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)